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industrialized city of the northeast. these were european first generations european who had no gun training. they got here and drafted to the army -- [inaudible conversations] people need to know and understand the firearms. that's when the nra was formed. when you get to today, it's interesting because that was urban, rural kind of division. that's the division. a lot of people don't have any familiarity in firearms. if you grew up in downtown anywhere where guns were banned and all of this whether it was gun crime -- is it illogical for you to think that these are bad rather than good? >> for -- [inaudible conversations] >> most of americans it's different. it is cultural. i talk about the cultural war which are id on call. it's also cultural in term of the upbringing and where you come from. i come from wisconsin, and when i was growing up, back in the old days you could take your shotgun -- [inaudible] you could get a card board case for your rifle at the check in counter. we could take our shotguns to school. that didn't happen in new york city. so that's part of the -- different cultu
to me, and there were four restaurants in the capital city. i was going to live for a year in the room at the holiday inn. i had every single item on the menu at the holiday inn luxembourg airport. the highlight of my time at the holiday inn. [inaudible] in addition, there was travel. luxembourg was the only country in europe at the time not a member of iota. there were places they could not serve like havana and mask -- moscow. i started most days by driving in the fog, dave very much like today. through either brussels, paris, or fred for airport and flew on from there. each of these was a two to three hour drive without the autobahn. i would return at midnight and then have a three hour phone call with tom whitehead, who was living in sunny, brentwood, california. then there was the excitement of working with enabling governments, media. for example, the day we or it incorporated -- the day we were incorporated within 20 minutes of filing our corporation documents. that was day one. we worked very hard for two years. we found the first investors and channel users and we built a staf
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